BorisfonBock писал(а):Интересно,а как сами солдаты относятсья к ACU: форма, удобство, кауфляж? А простой народ США-они же видят и наверное гордяться своими солдатами. Если можно, то по-русски напечатанное- по-английски не всё понимаю. У нас сказали, что похож на малярный костюм.
Вот, нашел у себя в кэше, ссылку не могу вспомнить, где брал. Ругаются сильно.
Прошу прощения за длинный текст, но так как ссылки нет, размещу его весь:
We of 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) came back from a JRTC Rotation not too long ago, with a number of the line companies and scouts being given the new ACUs to test out.
The ACU is NOT a field uniform. Its advantages in maintenance are all for the garrison soldier. The fabric is thin and it tears easily, especially around the knees when you're pulling security. The velcro nametapes and patches shrivel up when they get wet. The velcro rank and unit patches are the constant target of stupid games where people tear them off, slap them on upside down, etc. In JRTC they were the favorite target of some of the villagers. In close proximity out there to the local populace out in the sandbox, I can see kids snatching these things off joe one after the other.
I have no complaints about the digital pattern. I have no complaints about the sound or lack of sound the velcro makes. For the line dogs, this is a non-issue. The enemy will hear the attack aviation, the cav scouts, the armor, the long green and tan line of trucks long, long before questions of whether velcro is too loud or no ever become a real issue.
I personally remove every button off my BDUs except my sleeves and those required to close the pants and the front. I had every pocket sewed in. Others use velcro. We did not make these modifications to our DCUs in the sandbox, or even in the few months before we went to the sandbox. It is unthinkable to screw around with a field uniform like that.
The key point is, FIELD UNIFORM. The ACU has a long way to go before it becomes anything close to a workable solution. This smacks of the MOLLE program, with plastic ruck frames that snap on impact and substandard cloth and straps in use everywhere. The ACUs we got are garbage. They might look cool in garrison, but they are not cut out for the field. Neither are the desert tan boots. What is the point of wearing suede tan boots in woods or swamp like JRTC? What would the point of wearing them be in the Korean Peninsula or Central America?
Buttons can be sewn back on easily. Stitching in fishing line works wonders. From personal experience, velcro hooks caked with clay and dirt are worthless. I do not need to make the time to take a toothbrush and go over every velcro surface. I shouldn't have to spend MORE time on what is supposed to be a lower-maintenance uniform in order to perform my missions for the day.
The people who want the velcro can have the velcro, but in the name of uniformity they will have everyone in the field sucking with a uniform designed for the lowest common denominator: The soldier who is too lazy to maintain his uniform in garrison.
Did I by the way mention that after 25 washes, the ACUs have to be turned into supply to re-apply the permethrin bug treatment they come with? And these things cost $88 a set, but aren't available at the vast majority of clothing and sales stores even now? So how come this uniform is designed for the slacker with functions and poor quality fabric that do the field soldier no good?
Because this is the Army of One: Striving for One Low Standard. Let me have my ALICE ruck and my BDUs back.
И еще оттуда:
-Well, just received my 4 sets of the ACUs yestuday after waiting an hour listeniong to some guy explain everything about them to us.
IMPRESSION
How can I put it. They feel more like sweatsuits then a combat uniform. X and XX are correct, the material they made these in are extremely thin, almos like they used the barest of min. material. And yes, these things are made for lazy soldiers!!!
Also, they gave us all USE AND CARE MANUAL and GTA card for them explaining all the added features and care for the uniform. I never thought a uniform could be more difficult to maintain. Oh, and the civie stressing that the new uniform will not under any conditions be starched, dry cleaned, or pressed brought all smiles to the Joes and frowns from the NCOs (especially our 1SG and CSM).
We do in rank inspection every Monday morning after first formation in the motor pool. I can see it now, the PSG and SLs walking up and down the lines with a ruler in hand checking to make sure that all the velcro patches are 1/8th inch from the flap of the arm pocket and that all name/army tapes are correctly lined and horizontial Not to mention all the fun 'I-Got-Your-Patch' games that will be going on.
However, there are some features I actually like about them.
The sewn-in IFF tapes on the pockets are a welcome addition that got a lot of approval from everyone. The removal of the bottom pockets on the coat was another as well as the added arm pockets as well. The collar is okay, but I don't think I'll be using it: too hot in the sandbox to be wearing that thing up all the time. I recommand using it if you op to use the IBAS collar (last time around, I only used the vest and never wore the collor, groin, or throat guard).
The jury is still out on the zipper portion of the coat. Personnal I think it just going to press into my chest when wearing my vest and that is something I don't need at all.
OVERALL
I guess I got the newer pattern ACUs since they look more Green then Gray up close. Still, I can't see how they can acutally work better in a desert environment. Urban landscape, yeah, its perfect and we'll be trying them out in the woods during final training before heading back to the sandbox.
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