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Pictures from East Wind II - March 2009

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Сообщение Tascabe » 22.04.2009 01:05

Most important are the pictures of the Soviet and East German side

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28248345@N ... 982751984/

Some will also be interested in the NATO side of the event

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28248345@N ... 982725032/

And on the 8th day we ended hostilities and had a cultural exchange where both sides visited the other's camps and were toured around to see how the "other half" lived.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28248345@N ... 112051397/



Comments are welcomed. Especially from Soviet/Russian Army vets. We are always looking for ways to improve.

Some areas of improvement this year:

Use of Soviet radio nets (R-105M and R-392 radios)

More large Soviet tents - UST-56

Vehicles - UAZ-469b and GAZ-69A (had to use a UniMog for a stand-in troop truck though)

But as always we are striving to get it as close to real life as possible (and safe)
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Сообщение skinner » 30.04.2009 12:59

Impressive! Unfortunately, I cannot judge about the details but the spirit appears to be authentic :)
The first vehicles normally on the scene of a crime are ambulances and police cruisers. If you are armed you have a chance to decide who gets transported in which vehicle, if you are not armed then that decision is made for you.
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Сообщение Dj_stecca » 02.06.2009 00:33

Hi guys,
is the game that you've played a reenacting? What's the period exactly involved? Congrats for outstanding organization!!!!
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Сообщение Tascabe » 03.06.2009 03:40

It is definately partially reenactment - more so than a normal airsoft MilSim.

Time frame is sort of a "what if" thing.

I made a post on our forums to help explain it -pasting that post below



"I have been asked this same question many times now in various forms.
To keep me from having to answer this on an individual basis and to help guide those looking to get the “spot on” look, I will explain this here.

East Wind is based on a “what if” scenario. What if the Berlin Wall did not come down and the Soviet Union was still in existence? For East Wind the target time period is 1988-1994 basically.
The actual game scenarios will change from year to year but the basis of the event will not.

For the NATO troops this is not too big of a deal really since NATO did not change much as a direct result of the fall of the Warsaw pact and Soviet Union.

For the East Bloc guys this causes a bit of a problem. The problem is that we do not have a definitive snapshot of what the East German or Soviet uniform or equipment would have been in 1992 for instance.

The problem comes in the fact that East Germany ceased to exist and with it the East German military. The Soviet Army was in existence for a few more years until the USSR ceased to exist in 1991. But between 1989 and 1991 the Soviet army was basically frozen in time. No new developments in uniforms or equipment and much of the work in process sort of stopped.

Because of this we cannot directly see what would have been if circumstances were different. We are forced to make assumptions based on the state of things in 1989 and forecast what would have been if things had kept going in the same direction.

Some examples of this are the use of the VSR “Dubok” pattern. This pattern was in development at the end of the USSR but was not officially issued until after the fall of the USSR. It was issued as the first official pattern of the Russian Federation Forces. Because of this – it is an approved East Wind pattern.

Along with this assumption comes the allowing of gear and uniforms that were issued in 1994 or later. The thought there is that if they had not had the freezing of development and the subsequent economic problems the development may have resulted in an earlier release of some items.

An example of this would be the “M94” Sapogi (jackboots). These are the newer style with the strap and buckle at the top to allow for larger calves and a better fit. While these were never issued at the same time as Afghanka and TTSKO in real life – they may have been if things had been different – so they are acceptable at East Wind.

Another example is allowing Grad-2 rigs to be worn. The Grad-2 is basically a rig based on the combining of the US LBV-88 and the ChiCom style of chest rig. The Soviet soldiers in Afghanistan made their own chest rigs or picked up ChiCom chest rigs for their use. The Soviet command realized the usefulness of the chest rig enough to produce two variants of their own at least as early as 1988 for the “type 2”. This showed a progression towards a change from the standard Y-strap load bearing gear used since at least the GPW (WW2). The basic style of the GRAD-2 is still used as the Russian Army issue vest 6sh92. Allowing for the fact that the GRAD-2 is made of cotton cloth instead of the polyester used in other current gear makes it a logical predecessor that might have been around in the early 1990’s if things had progressed untouched.

Some will say that this is stretching things. We do not see it like that. There has to be some thought into the “what if” portion of this. We are not doing a reenactment of a documented time period but actually doing a simulation of a period that could have been.

This is a very slippery slope though. What we strive to do is keep this “pre-westernization”. This means before all the Tac vests and Blackhawk style gear. Before Molle and its numerous variants. Before the wide-spread overuse of cordura. We are trying to simulate the Soviet Army – not the Russian Army of today that is barely distinguishable from any other 1st World army.

Hopefully this will help explain things a little better for what we are going for."
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Сообщение Dj_stecca » 03.06.2009 22:42

Very nice scenario Bro!!! Do you repeat this big game in the next future?
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Сообщение Tascabe » 04.06.2009 02:34

Yes - we do it once a year.

This was the second one - we are already getting more stuff ready for next March when we will be doing the third one.

You should think about coming over for it. ;)
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Сообщение Dj_stecca » 04.06.2009 20:49

I've take part (with Antonio "Crack") on Strikeball Open Season 2007 in the nearest of Moscow (maybe....Tuchkovo, is it right?????) and I've played in Nato section with Team Bersaglieri Moscow. Assuredly next time we will share in about 50 airsofters (divided into Italian Army and Marт San Marco) and I work from now to find an generous donor who will pay the travel in Russia. Maybe we will change bb's on playing ground :wink: :grin:
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Сообщение Tascabe » 09.06.2009 17:27

This event in the US - I know it is hard to believe that americans would go so far to recreate the Cold War era Soviet Army - but we do ;)

I hope to actually make the trip to Russia someday soon. Everytime I make plans something gets in the way. :-x
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Сообщение Dj_stecca » 10.06.2009 04:31

I LOVE airsoft game my Bro!!! I hope to share to another Strikeball (open or closed season) 'cause I enjoyed too much but I got to have a long travel by car from Italy (Pesaro) to Russia (Moscow).
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